Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Freestyle wrestling techniques

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:23, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of Freestyle wrestling techniques

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Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Some of these techniques may be notable in their own right, but this list in particular feels indiscriminate and provides almost no encyclopedic context as to what anything is. — Mhawk10 (talk) 04:20, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. — Mhawk10 (talk) 04:20, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a page List of Brazilian jiu-jitsu techniques that follows the same format, albeit slightly more developed. The only real difference is that this article is new and has no lead section.

Wrestling is a widely used Martial art and Olympic Sport, and this article gives a basic understanding of wrestling. From neutral position you make a clinch hold and preform a takedown. If you are on the bottom, you attempt to avoid a pin, and if you are on top, you attempt too pin. This article is an important for readers of martial arts and athletic articles. Jellybean987 (talk) 06:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My awareness of wrestling is generally limited to folkstyle wrestling, but I'm able to recognize the vast majority of the techniques listed. I'm not a huge fan of List of Brazilian jiu-jitsu techniques to be honest. In general, the list entries should all be notable, and a multi-level list is a bit odd for this sort of article. — Mhawk10 (talk) 07:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am myself a student of Brazilian jui-jitsu, and i personally dislike wrestling, though it doesn't matter what we like or don't like personally, but what is useful for readers. I don't wrestle and never have, but i have edited the intro section and clinch hold section. I feel you will think a bit more highly of the article, as the information i included can help layman understand the edited section. Jellybean987 (talk) 07:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete Completely unsourced, doesn't pass WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No establishment of notability. — Czello 08:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added a source section and a single source so far to verify information. Why judge a new article so harshly that it needs a "speedy delete" Jellybean987 (talk) 08:31, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
added now 3 references to verify article information. How many do you feel is proper? Jellybean987 (talk) 08:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The addition of sources is good, but I'm still not seeing an establishment of notability or how it passes WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Don't take it personally. — Czello 08:59, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't take it personally. After edits, The article is no longer a list and was moved to Freestyle wrestling techniques. As far as i know, it is solid enough to be a stub class, and with more work, a start class article. Jellybean987 (talk) 09:06, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Czello. Philosophy2 (talk) 09:06, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have nothing else to add beyond this, but look at the "edits since nomination" and see the progress of an hour of work.I'm just trying to help people learn more. That's my case. I'll check on this page in a few days and if the article is decided to be kept, i'll keep improving it. Jellybean987 (talk) 09:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Azuredivay (talk) 16:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The very definition of freestyle is "there are few restrictions on the moves or techniques that competitors employ", so you can't possibly classify all the techniques (and ones to be found in the future) all in one article. Nate • (chatter) 19:21, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.